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New York Hip Hop Strikes Again
Posted in Entertainment, Life on 20. Oct, 2008
A few weeks ago I went to a showcase of Atlanta’s best underground talent, and to see my homies Sean Faylon and Brittany Bosco. While waiting for my home girl Brittany to go on stage I bumped into R&B star Lloyd and we had a quick conversation. He asked me “Why don’t up north rappers stick together?” I thought about it and the only thing I could come up with was that after Biggie died, everyone wanted to be the king of NY. Lloyd pointed out how there is a lot of love in the south and talked about how everyone sticks together down here. I ended our conversation because I know he wasn’t there to end up on a blog.
Fast forward to today and during a Ace Hood video shoot violent broke out,when NY rapper Jim Jones and his crew allegedly jumped on an unidentified man.
As celebrities like Polow Da Don, Young Buck, Jadakiss, DJ Khaled, and Juelz Santana were making their exits, several men exited the soundstage, chasing an unidentified man.
Seconds later, the man was reportedly assaulted by a group of men, who were allegedly part of Jim Jones’ and Juelz Santana’s entourage.
Immediately following the fight, both Jones and Santana were rushed away from the scene by their security details.
The alleged victim walked away from the incident apparently unscathed.
I’m so sick of these super hard core New York rappers who are the main reason to blame for East Coast Hip Hop falling off. We were once the pillar’s of “Swag” and originality, but now we are lost. No one from up top is original. Take the new Ron Browz song ‘Pop Champagne’ done entirely in voice vocoder. The song is cool don’t get me wrong, but do we really need another rapper rapping like the computer Rudy from the Jetsons? Let T-Pain live.
There is so much going on in the world that could be rapped about, like the economy, gas prices, or having a job like Rick Ross, but we would perfer to talk about spending money the regular people don’t have, and of course b*tches and ho*s. I say East Coast rap has become the “John McCain” of music because they just don’t get it. Kanye is coming out with a new style like every other week, and New York rappers are still trying to make down south songs.
Contrary to popular belief there is no formula for making a hit record. I might like one song by you today and hate the next song by you tomorrow, all sent to me by ‘Best of Both Offices’. (What up Steve) Let’s go back, Wu-Tang came out speaking about the way of life in the slums of Staten Island, Jay-Z came out speaking about how “hustling just ain’t you”, Nas came out speaking about his skills and life being a bitch. Therefore I say it’s not hard to tell, that unless NY rap starts being original again, innovating again, and stop trying to kill everybody they come in contact with, then Biggie, Big Pun, and every other deceased hip hop legend will continue to toss in their graves until the birth place of hip hop starts producing fresh, lyrically fruit. Put out a Joell Ortiz album!!
Stop The Violence
Xilla I cannot agree with you more. I was a big fan of hip-hop back in the day. Straight hip-hop head and then things just started going south…literally. Not knocking the progression the south has made to the hip-hop nation but it seems like west coast and east coast has just lost their way. Everyone is just looking out for themselves. Your right when you mentioned the tragedies with Pac and Big. That changed the game dramatically now everyone seems too Gully..Too hardcore. It's very discouraging.
Im ridin wit you on this one son!!!!
Who the fuck still “jumps” people in 2008?
And there is plenty that can be discussed and Im glad that you clearly stated that. There is nothing but garbage comin outta NY right now. That I hear anyway. Nothin wrong with a lil substance…….stop flexin…that shit aint cute…….spendin yo bill money at the club.
Fighting is wack no matter what but to slant this like it's a NY or East Coast thing is a tad ridiculous. Of course people have their own opinions, but some of it is just ignorance. This is not specifially to you Blogxilla, this is to anyone in general who thinks that all NY or East Coast rappers are bitter about the South because that ain't true. First, unless you've actually scene the NYC hip-hop seen firsthand, then that excludes you from the conversation. This is not a territory thing like a lot of people tend to make it, it's an education thing. Recognize that:
1. NY and East Coast are not the same. Yes, NYC is on the east coast, but so are Washington DC (Mid-Atlantic), Florida, SC, NC, etc but those are totally different regions and we seem to forget that the South is East Coast as well.
2. Southern rappers have beef too. Remember the July issue of XXL with Trina, Ross, Khaled etc on the cover? There was a lot of drama in putting that together because there wasn't as much unity in FLA as we originally thought. FLA = the south. I know because I work there, this is not some uneducated guess that I'm making like a lot of people tend to do. Didn't Trae and Mike Jones have beef? How about Shawty Lo and TI? Plies and Trick Daddy? I hate when people act like having no unity is unique to East Coast or more specifically NY. The NY hip-hop scene is different but there is unity up here just like there's beef, it's not one sided.
2. There are NY rappers who sell out and make “Southern” songs, but at the end of the day, the mainstream perpetrates a stereotypical “Southern” sound when there more musical diversity down there than gets represented.
3. Everything out of he South is NOT hot. Let's get that straight right now. Sure, it's what's poppin in the mainstream but that don't mean it's good. It means that it SELLS. I think that's also part of the frustration of rappers from other places, not just NYC. Record labels jump on what's hot so if there's a hot stupid dance or trend song coming out of anywhere (not to exclude Harlem), then that's who gets signed and a lot of that lately has been Southern artists. Now, don't read me wrong, this is not hate on the South because I acknowledge real talent out of the South like T.I., OutKast, B.o.B, Curren$y, Jeezy, Ludacris, etc but let's face it, wack juice is everywhere. It ain't just NY or East Coast.
4. Why do you think everyone is going indie?
5. Did you know that the new NY movement for rappers is getting bread overseas? I know mad rappers who are talented in NYC but don't get major label burn in the US because they don't sound cliche yet they go overseas and are superstars. That's the new NY movement.
5. There is so much going on in the world that could be rapped about, like the economy, gas prices, or having a job like Rick Ross, but we would perfer to talk about spending money the regular people don’t have, and of course b*tches and ho*s.
What does that have to do with East Coast rap being bad? The last time I checked, EVERYONE was on some materialistic tip.
I say East Coast rap has become the “John McCain” of music because they just don’t get it. Kanye is coming out with a new style like every other week, and New York rappers are still trying to make down south songs.
Stop checking for the mainstream if you feel this way. There's mad talented cats not just from NY but from quite a few places making a buzz.
Asher Roth
Charles Hamilton
Wale
Kid Cudi
Mickey Factz
Skyzoo
Torae
Tanya Morgan
Fresh Daily
Homeboy Sandman
P.Casso
Nola Darling
Blu
etc.
Check where all these people are from and peep how original they are.
Contrary to popular belief there is no formula for making a hit record.
There IS a formular to making a record in the mainstream. SELL! Talk to any rapper out here and if they tell you that ain't true, they're lying.
P.S. I was born and raised in NYC but I love good hip-hop period. Stop making it North vs South and kindly be reminded that there are Southern states on the East Coast. Wack juice is everywhere.
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I blame 50!!! That man single-handedly interrupted any chance of NY rapper unity.
“New York rappers are still trying to make down south songs.”
—-LOL
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Is this english??
All I know is I will listen to OLD Hip Hop.. from the EAST ALL DAY!
Im just not a fan of CERTAIN Hip Hop.
Loving Heltah Skeltah's D.I.R.T though..
This just saddens me.
Sorry..I mean
DIS jus sadduHns meh.
smh
your gonna be suprized when NY brings it back ive been working on my mix tapes repersent NY